Join Michael Patton, Tim Kimberley, JJ Seid and Sam Storms as they continue their series on Roman Catholicism by discussing The Apocrypha and what qualifies a book as “Biblical”.

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    • Pete again

      11. 2 Maccabees 7:28-30, “So I urge you, my child, to look at the sky and the earth. Consider everything you see there, and realize that God made it all from nothing, just as he made the human race.” The Christian dogma of “ex nihilo” is based upon this Scripture, in addition to Hebrews 11:3 and Revelation 4:11. However, this LXX verse is the clearest of the three.

      12. The example of gravity/Newton and Bible/Church doesn’t hold water. Gravity existed before Newton, and gravity would have existed anyway, with or without Newton. On the other hand, the Church existed before the Bible…and no Church, no New Testament.

      13. Tim hit it right on the button: the Church ALREADY believed what Nicene declared in 325AD. The only reason they declared it so publicly was because they were pushed by heretics to do so. Bravo Tim.

    • Pete again

      1. Orthodox Christians do not use the word “Apocrypha”. Your broadcast makes this error during the first 5 minutes. This is a Protestant term to refer to the books that are included the Septuagint (LXX) Old Testament, but not in the Jewish Masoretic text.

      2. The LXX was translated from Hebrew texts around 250BC. The Masoretic text was translated from Hebrew texts around 900AD.

      3. As CMP says, “If Paul uses the LXX, why don’t we?”. A great question! CMP answers with, “MY view…”. This is classic Protestant “flower garden” reasoning: choosing the flower in the garden of the New Testament that THEY like, even if their personal choice differs from the likes of St. Paul.

      4. Jesus Christ also used the LXX! Jesus is quoting Isaiah 29:13, using the Septuagint, in Mark 7:6-8, “These people honor me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.” Mark 7:6-8 is a reference to the LXX and cannot be found in the Jewish Masoretic text.

      5. And again: The only time the Gospels quote Jesus’ exact words as He read in a synagogue was in Luke 4:16-20. Jesus read from the book of Isaiah, chapter 61:1-2, from the LXX (and not the Masoretic text…it didn’t exist yet).

      6. The LXX is the Old Testament Scriptures of Jesus Christ, the apostle Paul, and the early Church.

      7. “Bel and the dragon”…The correct LXX word is “serpent”.

      8. Have you ever read “Susanna” in Daniel? What a BEAUTIFUL story, especially for young people today!


      This is inspired Scripture…and also our introduction to the prophet Daniel.

      8. Baruch was Jeremiah’s personal secretary/scribe.

      9. Lamentations of Jeremiah – 580BC 2 Ezra – 500BC Epistle of Jeremiah – 590 BC Daniel (Susanna & Bel) – 550BC Baruch – 581 BC Esther – 450BC

      10. Revelation, 2 Peter, Jude, and Hebrews are “DISPUTED books”?

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