One of the most popular arguments that have been made prolific among atheists by the so-called “New Atheists” is that they have no burden of proof because they have no belief concerning God. They don’t “believe there is no God” but they “lack a belief in God.”
This supposedly presents them with the privileged situation where they can come to a discussion and debate, kick back, undermine, and, often, make fun of your belief without having to lift a finger to defend their belief (or lack thereof). Don’t you know the Bible has contradictions? Do you really believe a snake can talk? Your God is an evil, moral monster who condones slavery, patriarchalism, and genocide. To them, very sincerely, we are at best someone who has never been weened from the teet of our parent’s naivety and at worst a backwater uneducated hillbilly who has an invincibly blind ignorance. The point is that the burden of proof solely rests in our court and they never have to defend anything as they are not positing a belief in anything.
The arguments sound good. After all, who of us believes in the Easter Bunny, mermaids, or Keebler Elves? If someone came to you and asked if you believe in the tooth fairy, would you feel pressured to make positive arguments that the tooth fairy doesn’t exist? If a friend or family member believed in the Man in the Moon who lives on the dark side of the moon, would you pull out your sophisticated dissertation full of premises and conclusions about how you came to your non-belief in the Man in the Moon? Of course not. We don’t have to make positive arguments for these things. Their existence is not assumed. We lack belief because these things lack evidence. One of the most popular illustrations in this regard comes from a book by atheist Bobby Henderson called The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. It is a basic argument ad absurdum (an appeal to the absurd—i.e. “your argument can’t be right because it is ridiculously absurd”). In it he compares his non-belief in God to his non-belief in a creature called the Flying Spaghetti Monster. “I no more have to defend my lack of belief in God than you do your lack of belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.” Now, just about every atheist is saying this.
But is this true? Do atheists lack any need to have positive arguments for their position? I truly believe that many of them are sincere in their own misguided thoughts here. The effectiveness of their own rhetoric and the converts that come from it affirm to them that they don’t have to really think through its legitimacy. After all, if it sounds good, changes peoples’ minds, causes Christians to cower in intellectual self-disappointment, and brings about a good laugh, it must be true.
However, it would seem that they are the ones drinking their own Cool-Aid. On a fundamental level, before anything else, belief in God comes not from a need to confirm our parent’s prejudice nor from an emotional need to find meaning in life or hope beyond the grave (though, those things can and do contribute). Our belief comes as an explanation for the fundamental question of Why is there something rather than nothing? If you believe in “something” you have a belief about where it came from, otherwise you are an agnostic. Atheists are not claiming to be agnostic, but are claiming that wherever everything came from, it was not from a God. If not, then they have to 1) tell how they know (positively) it was not from God or 2) where they think it came from. But if it is not from God, this posits a system called “Naturalism.” Naturalism is a positive worldview, not simply a negation of theism. It posits that the universe is a closed system without any willful being that exists transcendent to it. Time, space, and matter are all that exist.
Naturalists believe the universe came about in one of two ways:
- The universe has always existed. Being came from non-being. Their positive belief here is that nothing actually can create something. How can they defend this? You will have to ask them.
- Everything has always existed. In this case, they will have to defend their belief that time, space, and matter can extend infinitely to the past. We can’t just assume this. This is a positive belief.
Both of these options are equally absurd in the formal sense. Something can’t come from nothing and time cannot go back an infinite number of moments (otherwise we would always we could never get to the present since we would have an infinite number of moments to go, no matter how far we came). Nevertheless, these are positive beliefs. Just because atheism is named in reference to another worldview (“a-theism”—”no-theism”), this does not mean the atheist has no burden of proof. By virtue of their lack of belief in God, they are necessarily naturalists. If I was to say I was an “a-naturalist” that does not alleviate me of having to defend any position. Being an “a-naturalist” is simply another way of saying I believe something outside our system of existence created everything, hence, a theist.
My point is that all the discussions we have with atheists about the existence of God must start with a defense of either atheism/naturalism or theism. If anyone in this discussion lacks the burden of proof, it is the theist. Why? Because if you are assuming that there is something that exists, then Something outside that something must exist in order to account for the existence of that something. This methodology is ubiquitous to the human race. If I made you lunch and you asked me who made your lunch, we don’t start with the assumption that it has always been or that nothing created it. If you turn on the T.V. and watch a show, you don’t start with the assumption nobody made this show or that the show has always been. If your house catches on fire, you assume something started the fire, not that it has always been or that it magically appeared from nothing. Of course, I could give examples forever, but you get my point. The only burden that we really have is defending Who God is, not if he is. But we may have to humor people by defending theism, having to go back to elementary principles of logic and explain that 1) something does indeed exist, 2) something can’t come from nothing, and 3) you cannot traverse an infinite number of moments.
Isn’t it really funny that atheists compare theists’ beliefs to magic? They believe that something can come from nothing or something can be infinite in time going in reverse. Who is really the one who believes in magic? If rationality exists, then they have the burden of proof.
6 replies to "Do Atheists Have Any Burden of Proof? or Do Atheists Believe in Magic?"
Michael, my good man! Happy to see your new blog post 🙂
I like the fact that you are challenging atheists: but why accept the challenge on atheist terms? By insisting that “our belief (in God) comes as an explanation for the fundamental question of Why is there something rather than nothing?” – are you not merely echoing the demand of Enlightenment rationalism, namely, that all beliefs must submit to the canons of human reasoning?
The Classical theism of the Catholic faith, which, unlike Protestantism, is not totally under the influence of rationalism, finds grounds for belief, not in human reasoning, but in God. A traditional Catholic prayer, called the Act of Faith, sums up classical theism nicely, by concluding that whatever truths the Holy Church teaches and which we believe as Christians, we believe precisely “because You (God) have revealed them, who can neither deceive nor be deceived”. Note the absence of any need for rational proof or evidential justification. Just the pure simplicity of faith, no more, no less.
Of course, that doesn’t mean I would agree with you that, as Christians or theists we have no obligation to demonstrate to unbelievers the existence of God, only his essence – or, as you put it: “The only burden that we really have is defending Who God is, not if he is.” On the contrary, according to classical theism, the one thing we cannot arrive at by human reasoning alone, is the very essence of God. The only way we can know God’s essence is through divine revelation. And revelation is given to be received by faith, not proved by reason. And, for Aquinas, it is precisely the fact that human reasoning is so prone to error which necessitates that we accept the authority of divine revelation and the certainty of faith, if we hope to obtain salvation in the safest and surest way possible.
I’ve said it before, and it bears repeating: the realism of St. Thomas Aquinas woke me from my rationalist stupor and guided me safely across the Tiber to Rome and the fullness of Catholic faith. It was this Catholic faith in the first place which taught us to ask, Why is there something, rather than nothing?
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Well, sometimes I am speaking to Christians as a prolepsis or prebuttal to their own thoughts. I do not foresee any atheists having any great enlightenment here. An, speaking of the enlightenment. It certainly wasn’t all bad. You take away the presumption of indubitably and we have a foundation to a significant component of our own faith. I think Aquinas would probably agree. 😜
Is belief in the Inner Presence of Christ the Achilles Heel of modern Christian apologetics? Why don’t evangelical apologists like discussing with skeptics their perception that the resurrected Jesus lives inside their bodies? Fifty evangelical apologists were surveyed about this topic but none responded! Why?
https://lutherwasnotbornagaincom.wordpress.com/2023/02/19/50-evangelical-apologists-were-asked-do-you-perceive-the-inner-presence-of-jesus-none-responded/
Aquinas would not agree, unless we insist, for whatever reason, that Aquinas is an epistemological foundationalist… But that reading of Aquinas is problematic, to say the least; and an interpretation generally not accepted amongst Thomists (indeed, it seems to be more of a common misconception of Aquinas by non-realist philosophers, e.g., the Reformed epistemology of Plantinga), as Aquinas scholars like Stump have aptly demonstrated.
As for Enlightenment being “not all bad”: would you say this stance takes seriously the post-modern critique of the Enlightenment?
Not sure what you mean by not “forseeing any atheist enlightenment”..?
When I am in the presence of my wife, I am 100% certain of her presence. I can see her, hear her, and touch her. There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever. Can you say the same about the presence of Jesus within you? No way. Be honest. You have at least some doubt, right?
If you admit that you do not have the same certainty about the presence of Jesus, then you admit that it is possible that you are mistaken. You admit that it is possible that your mind is playing tricks on you. And if Jesus does not dwell within you as the Christian holy book promises, then your entire belief system is false, correct?
Is it rational to believe that an invisible, inaudible, untouchable spirit is present within you when even you admit that you are not 100% certain of its reality? No. So why should anyone trust your “research” on the historicity of the alleged resurrection of this same first century man with such irrational thinking?
Gary, liberal and conservative traditions in Protestantism developed in reaction to – and consequently, are both products of – the Enlightenment: whereas Enlightenment thinkers tried to establish grounds for truth and certainty in human reasoning alone (historical), liberals developed the idea that truth and certainty must be based in subjective experience (personal), while conservatives, in their turn, and mostly to counter liberals, invented the doctrine of inerrancy (Biblical).
What is important here, is that both traditions are just variations of rationalism. And if it is unity we really want, then there’s no way of getting around that.