I remember when I was young, I was taught that there was a place called “Abraham’s Bosom.” The way it was explained to me made perfect sense at the time. You go to heaven if you trust in Christ. You go to hell if you don’t. People go to heaven because Christ’s atonement on the cross paid for their sins. Without Christ, you are still held liable for your sin. Since God cannot be in the presence of sin (Hab. 1:13), those who are not covered by Christ’s death can’t be in the presence of God. Those who are covered can be in the presence of God.
So far so good?
But there is a problem: what about all God’s people who came before Christ’s death? What about Abraham, Moses, David, and Isaiah? According to the Christian “Abraham’s Bosom” theory, they were not yet covered by Christ’s blood. Conclusion: they, before Christ’s death, were not in the presence of God. They were somewhere else—some temporary abode—waiting for their sins to be covered by Christ’s death.
This abode was known as “Abraham’s Bosom.” Think “Protestant Purgatory” or something like that and you will be close. Abraham’s Bosom existed as a holding tank for God’s people until Christ’s death on the cross could cleanse them of their sins. Once the atonement was made (Christ’s death), Abraham’s Bosom was vacated and all its occupants were ushered into God’s presence in heaven.
The name “Abraham’s Bosom” came from the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus in Luke 16. “Now the poor man died and was carried away by the angels to Abraham’s bosom, and the rich man also died and was buried” (Luke 16:22). Notice, this parable was given before Christ’s atonement. Therefore, people have said this must be the place, between heaven and hell, pre-Cross saints went.
Why Abraham’s Bosom is not separate from God’s presence
As nice and tidy as that might sound, it does not really work. There is no such place as Abraham’s Bosom that is separate from the presence of God.
First, the idea that God cannot be in the presence of sin is untenable.
The passage in Hab. 1:13 simply means that God is too pure to approve sin. It has nothing to do with sin or evil being in God’s presence. God can be in the presence of sinful beings. Here are some examples:
- After the fall, we find God walking in Eden with Adam and Eve (Gen. 3:8).
- Satan himself can be in God’s presence. In Job 1:6, we see Satan presenting himself before God (see also 1 Chron 18:18-21; Rev. 12:10).
- We see a council before God in heaven that includes deceiving spirits (1 Kings 22:19-23)
- Christians, who are still sinners (1 John 1:8), are the temple of the Holy Spirit. Obviously, the Holy Spirit must be able to be in the presence of sin.
- Christ, God incarnate, was in the presence of sin the whole time he walked the earth (John 1:14). He was even carried in the womb of a sinner!
Second, the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus does not teach that “Abraham’s Bosom” is a separate heaven.
In the parable, Christ is confronting the religious leaders’ bad theology. They were lovers of money (Luke 16:14). They believed that being rich and healthy was a sign that God was on your side. If you were poor and sick then God was not with you. In the parable, the rich man, whom all the Pharisees thought was the quintessential representative Jew with great rewards waiting for him in heaven, found himself in torment in Hell. The poor sick man, who was, in the mind of the Pharisees, the quintessential representative bad Jew, was ushered by the angels to Abraham’s “side” or “bosom.” The idea is not ontological (dealing with a physical place), but relational. To be at one’s side or bosom represented the closest place of fellowship one could have with another. The one who the Pharisees believed was not a good child of Abraham winds up at the closest place of fellowship with Abraham that there is—Abraham’s bosom.
Christ was being rhetorical. The rich man is unnamed and forgotten forever. Lazarus’ name means “God helps”. The rich man dies and is buried. The poor man dies and is carried by the angels. The rich man goes to hell, “far away” from Abraham (Luke 16:23). The poor man goes to Abraham’s side, in heaven.
This is not affirming some Second-Temple judaism belief in a third compartment of the afterlife. It is just idiomatic of talking about being in the good place, heaven.
Conclusion
Saints in the Old Testament did not need a special dispensation. God can be in the presence of sin. If he could not be in the presence of sin, we are in big trouble. Nevertheless, they were forgiven in anticipation of Christ’s atonement. When David, Abraham, Moses, and other Old Testament saints died, they immediately went into the presence of God on the bases of Christ’s shed blood, though yet future.
Paul speaks very clearly about the status of pre-cross saints:
Romans 3:24-26
“Being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; 25 whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed; 26 for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus” (emphasis mine).
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I knew that you were gonna go here! LOL.
One of the first things you asked was:
But there is a problem: what about all God’s people who came before Christ’s death? What about Abraham…
Well, let’s see:
Romans 5:13
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
It’s an OBSCURE verse that no one wants to talk about.
The next thing that you mention is:
The name “Abraham’s Bosom” came from the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus in Luke 16.
You call it a parable. I do not.
You want dispensation here…you got it! Why is it called “ABRAHAM’S” What does Abraham have to do with it?
It all goes back to the PROMISE in Genesis 17.
Galatians 3:29
And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Galatians 3:7
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
Then you go and mention:
Romans 3:24-26
“Being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; 25 whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed; 26 for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus” (emphasis mine).
The TOPIC, if you will, or Romans 3 is about RIGHTEOUSNESS, God’s Righteousness. We get that righteousness just the same that Abraham got it…by BELIEVING, or FAITH.
The Jews don’t have that, because the law is not of faith. Let’s see RIGHTEOUSNESS in action:
Romans 4:3
For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Jews under the law:
Deuteronomy 6:25
And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the Lord our God, as he hath commanded us.
From Jesus on…
Romans 3:21
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Romans 3:22
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
The law is not of faith…and THAT is dispensation here.
But for those BEFORE THE LAW, like Abraham who, by the way, slept with his sister, and that was against the law of Moses…YES, HALF SISTERS COUNT.
Romans 5:13
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Yes, that OBSCURE verse that no one wants to talk about.
Romans 4:15
Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
NO TRANSGRESSION, NO TRANSGRESSION, NO TRANSGRESSION (AKA NO SIN CHARGED, EVEN IF YOU SINNED)
Romans 4:8
Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
OH, and we ALSO have this:
Acts 17:30…from the KJV, something about WINKED? In Acts 17:30, we have IDOL WORSHIPPERS, and God WINKED at that.
So, who’s SINS were actually IMPUTED to them? Abraham? NOPE. Idol worshippers? NOPE. The Jews under the law? YEP.
Romans 7:
7 …I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 …For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
What was the name of that tree in the garden? Something about KNOWLEDGE? Without KNOWLEDGE, you are NOT GONNA GET SIN IMPUTED TO YOU.
And that is what happened to those who died before Jesus died on the cross. Protestant Disneyland! In Abraham’s Bosom. INCLUDING THOSE IN THE FLOOD OF NOAH’S DAY! Peter talks about those people that Jesus preached to. Jesus died for them, too! Jesus, the righteous, died for the unrighteous. He died for THEM, TOO.
Sins alone does not condemn someone. KNOWLEDGE of sin does. We call that GUILT that we have in our soul. Such as when Adam covered his privates. He felt guilt, because he got KNOWLEDGE of evil.
But let’s see that in action with regarding Abraham’s sin:
Genesis 26:5
Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
So, if we are to believe that Abraham had the law, but that it just wasn’t codified yet, then we can be led to believe that Abraham was sinless, when reading Genesis 26:5. And yet, we are told “For all have sinned”.
So let’s test to see if Abraham had the law…it’s an easy test. We will take a good look at the “codified” law, and see if Abraham really did OBEY the Law of Moses, before it was codified.
Leviticus 18:6
None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the Lord.
Leviticus 18:9
The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy
mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their
nakedness thou shalt not uncover.
Leviticus 18:11
The nakedness of thy father’s wife’s daughter, begotten of thy father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
Leviticus 20:17
And if a man shall take his sister, his father’s daughter, or his mother’s
daughter, and see her nakedness, and she see his nakedness; it is a
wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people: he
hath uncovered his sister’s nakedness; he shall bear his iniquity.
Deuteronomy 27:22
Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the
daughter of his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen.
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And now, ABRAHAM, who obeyed God’s commandments, statutes, ordinances, and “TORAH”?
Genesis 20:12
And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
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And yet, God never informed Abraham of this grievous sin, but blessed brother and sister with a promised inbred son. According to the codified law, Abraham is cursed, because he did a wicked thing, and should be cut off from the sight of his people, and shall bear his iniquity…yet, he was NOT cursed at all, but BLESSED. God never told him about this sin, but gave brother/sister an inbred child instead.
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Abraham is known as the father of the faith, and that is the reason Abraham’s name is in Abraham’s bosom.
NEXT…
Earlier you had said that Abraham’s Bosom is a…PARABLE? Is that the word you used? Yes, many think the same. But I can prove it is NOT a Parable.
What is the RULES regarding parables?
Matthew 13:10-11
And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Mark 4:11
And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
Mark 4:34
But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.
Luke 8:10
And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables
The following link opens a PDF of an excel spreadsheet showing the partial zippered (page 4 of 5) gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke. The heavy bold indicates that a topic is in all three gospels, while the shaded indicates that a topic is in two of the three. The x indicates that the topic is NOT in that particular gospel at all. Finally, hopefully, you will be able to determine that the story of The Rich Man and Lazarus was not a parable.
In short, if Jesus talks to DISCIPLES ONLY, it’s NOT a parable.
In the following, you will see some things that you probably never considered.
http://chapmaned24.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/click-to-open-table.pdf
The above table is a ZIPPERED event by event of 3 of the 4 gospels. The conclusion you should see is that:
1. Jesus was NOT in Galilee when discussing the topic
2. Jesus was in JUDEA
3. Jesus was discussing DIVORCE with the Pharisees
4. THEN Jesus and the disciples retreat into a house together, and the subject of divorce CONTINUES only with Jesus and the disciples.
5. THEN, with only the disciples present, THEN Jesus starts discussing the Rich Man and Lazarus.
He wasn’t talking to the Pharisees here. This is NO PARABLE.
And once you figure that out, then you will KNOW where Samuel was, when King Saul sought for him through the Witch of Endor.
Speak to Jews, and they will tell you that NO ONE GOES TO HEAVEN, THEY ALL GO TO SHEOL. Well, that was true…until Jesus released them.
Nice Try Tho…try again?
Ed Chapman
Oh, and I forgot this one:
You had said:
“First, the idea that God cannot be in the presence of sin is untenable.”
And then you gave a lot of examples, such as Jesus walking amongts sinners.
But Jesus did say:
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Ephesians 2:18
For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Our Father, who art…where?
You can’t get to the SPIRIT (John 4:24) without first going thru the BODY AND THE BLOOD of Christ!